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RoyalistCavalier

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Hierarchy of Hell (Nobility of Hell)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hierarchy_of_demons


We all know that in our world their are Nobility threw out every Monarchy with such titles like Prince, Count and Baron. Their is however a Nobility of Hell with with Henchmen of Satan as the Nobles of Hell.  Here is a list of Titles of the Nobility of Hell from the highest to the lowest

01. Emperor (Satan)
02. Great Kings
03. Kings
04. Great Princes
05. Princes
06. Great Marquises
07. Marquises
08. Great Dukes
09. Dukes
10. Great Earls
11. Earls
12. Great Presidents
12. Presidents
13. Knights
14. Great Marshals


Here is a list of some Demons that I found representing some of the Noble Ranks of Hell.


Satan (Emperor of Hell)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satan

Asmodai (Great King of Hell)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asmodai

Belial (Prince of Hell)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belial

Berith (Great Duke of Hell)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berith

Baal (Duke of Hell)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baal_%28demon%29


As Monarchists what do you think of the Nobility of Hell. Do you believe that as Monarchists we have to support them. This is a tricky situation for us Monarchists becuase these Nobles are evil.


For some fun. We all know that we have a Chinese Calander and a Greek Calander representing the various Months. Their is also a Demon Calander in which certian Demons are at their most powerful on certain months.

Classification of Demons (Go to Classification of Demons by Month)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classification_of_demons


Since I was born in January, my Demon is Belial


Name: Belial
Rank: Prince of Hell
Domain: Ruler over the Northern Reaches of Hell
Commands: 80 Legions of Demons
Sins: Lies and Guilt
Element: Earth

Belial
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belial

Demons and their Months


Month: January
Demon: Belial

Month: February
Demon: Leviathan

Month: March
Demon: Satan

Month: April
Demon: Belphagor

Month: May
Demon: Lucifer

Month: June
Demon: Berith

Month: July
Demon: Beelzebub

Month: August
Demon: Astaroth

Month: September
Demon: Thammuz

Month: October
Demon: Baal

Month: November
Demon: Asmodai

Month: December
Demon: Moloch


Which Demon represents you.

The most powerful family in Hell BTW is comprised of Samael and Lilith, their daughter Lesser Lilith, her husband Asmodai and Asmodai's mother Naamah.


Lilith was the first wife of Adam before Eve
Namaah had a fling with Adam while Adam was with Lilith and had the poweful Demon Asmodai as a result.


Samael
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samael

Lilith
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith

Asmodai
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asmodai

Naamah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naamah_%28demon%29


So this is a fasctinating topic for us Monarchists. I believe we should talk about this because I find it very interesting.






 
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I find it rather odd myself.

Satan is the Prince of the Power of the Air and the Prince of this World, so I guess he could be counted as an evil nobleman....

Beelzebub is the prince of the devils (according to scripture) - not 'a' but 'the'....

And there is ample evidence of the same being having multiple names
"... ....And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan...."

As for text supporting a heirarchy, I find only:
"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood,
but against principalities,
against powers,
against the rulers of the darkness of this world,
against spiritual wickedness in high [places]. "

On the question of should we support them, the answer is (at least for me) fairly easy - NO.

Monarchs at war against one's own sovereign are not supported - to support them would be tantamount to treason....When Christ the Righteous King comes in His Glory, I don't want my name to appear on any list of 'supporters of the current Prince of this World'. 

I've read the last of the book.  The Kingdom of Satan falls.

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Many people seem to believe that Satan and Lucifer are the same. In fact they are differant beings. When Satan was in Heaven as an Angel he belonged to highest choir of Angels the Seraphim's, while Lucifer was in Heaven he belonged to the Cherub the second highest choir of Angels. I believe Satan is the Devil while Lucifer is just one of his demon henchmen.

How can 1 being be in 2 different ranks of Angels at the same time?


BTW did you know that my demon Belial (Demon of January) is the father of Satan. He was the angel who encouraged his son to rebel against God and he was the first angel to be cast out of Heaven into Hell by God.


So which Demon represents the month of your birth?


I do find it very interesting about Hell being a Monarchy with a Nobility. You can say that Hell is the first place where you have a Monarchy and Nobility.

God is the Lord of Heaven
Satan is the Emperor of Hell


I am surprised that Belial is just a Prince of Hell rather then a Great King of Hell, after all he is the father of Satan.


So tell me what do you think of the family comprising of Samael, Lilith, Lesser Lilith, Asmodai and Naamah?

What do you think of Asmodai being the son of Adam and the Demon Naamah?


To learn more about the Henchmen of Satan go to

List of Demons
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_demons


I do find its funny that their are no female Angles. I must say that it must be a hard life (No pun intended) for the angels. Their are Female Demons who are around in Hell, and unlike the Angels the Demons can mate and have offspring.
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A Twisted Parody and Mockery of the true soldiers of God
Why we should read more about them?,because we must know our enemy

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A Twisted Parody and Mockery of the true soldiers of God
Why we should read more about them?,because we must know our enemy


The Royalist


This topic is not about God but about the Nobility of Hell. I know that Satan (Emperor of Hell) and his henchmen the Arch Demons (Great Kings, Kings, Great Princes, Princes, Great Marquises, Marquises, Great Dukes, Dukes, Great Earls, Earls, Great Presidents, Presidents, Knights and Great Marshals of Hell) are our enemies, but I do find this stuff fascinating. Come to think about this, these people are the first Nobles in history.


I do wonder if Satan and his Chief Henchmen (Arch Demons) live in Palaces in Hell. I also wonder if they like the Nobility of our world are related threw marriage. I also wonder how many Demons and evil spirits make up a Legion in the Army of Hell.

Whether we like it or not these Arch Demons were the first Nobility!





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Many people seem to believe that Satan and Lucifer are the same. In fact they are differant beings. When Satan was in Heaven as an Angel he belonged to highest choir of Angels the Seraphim's, while Lucifer was in Heaven he belonged to the Cherub the second highest choir of Angels. I believe Satan is the Devil while Lucifer is just one of his demon henchmen.

I have an old catechistic book that extends the name of Satan to all the Hosts of Hell, while the Prince of Darkness, the fallen Angel cast from Heaven by St. Michael is Lucifer.

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BaronVonServers


Many people seem to believe that Satan and Lucifer are the same. In fact they are differant beings. When Satan was in Heaven as an Angel he belonged to highest choir of Angels the Seraphim's, while Lucifer was in Heaven he belonged to the Cherub the second highest choir of Angels. I believe Satan is the Devil while Lucifer is just one of his demon henchmen.

Fine by me.  I find no text to 'disprove' nor support your position.

I tend to think that Lucifer is the 'unfallen' name of the same being now known as 'Satan'.  An "the evil one formerly known as.." kind of thing.....

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How can 1 being be in 2 different ranks of Angels at the same time?

? Same as there are (more than) two different ranks of sergeants at the same time I guess. (which is to say easy enough that it happens all the time...)

Come to think of it there are more than two ranks of Generals, and of Admirals as well..
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BTW did you know that my demon Belial (Demon of January) is the father of Satan.

I'm rather surprized that anyone would 'claim' a demon.  The maintenance on those things is reported to be very high...

Satan is the Father of Lies, but no where is his father's name listed in the Text (that I'm aware of)...


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He was the angel who encouraged his son to rebel against God and he was the first angel to be cast out of Heaven into Hell by God.

Uhm, on what basis have you determined that ANY angels (fallen or unfallen) are currently in Hell?

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So which Demon represents the month of your birth?

None, I don't play those games.
I have been Born into the Kingdom of God, the 'nobility' of the opposing side has nothing to do with me any longer...

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I do find it very interesting about Hell being a Monarchy with a Nobility.

I find no evidence that it is.  Some of Those in it (when they come to find themselves there) would have be 'former monarchs' - put they'll be no monarchy in Hell  - it will be the King's Prison, and the Prisoners will have no other rank than Prisoner.
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You can say that Hell is the first place where you have a Monarchy and Nobility.

You could.  You'd be wrong of course, but you could say it.
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God is the Lord of Heaven
Satan is the Emperor of Hell

God is the King of Kings, and the Lord of Lords. 
Satan is the Father of Lies,  and at the end, will be a prisoner whose torments go up forever and ever.
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I am surprised that Belial is just a Prince of Hell rather then a Great King of Hell, after all he is the father of Satan.

Perhaps you should read the Scriptures a bit more.....
The accusation of the Jews against Christ (where the title is given) is just before the 'Unpardonable Sin' discussion.  Shouldn't come as a surprise to you.

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So tell me what do you think of the family comprising of Samael, Lilith, Lesser Lilith, Asmodai and Naamah?

I think them to be mythic, allegorical, at best. 
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What do you think of Asmodai being the son of Adam and the Demon Naamah?

I think that if Adam had slept with a Demon(ess) and it mattered at all, the Scriptures would have recorded the event.

I don't spend much time on the 'maybes' of the losing side.

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To learn more about the Henchmen of Satan go to

List of Demons
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_demons


I haven't the slightest interest.

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I do find its funny that their are no female Angles.

Why is that?
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I must say that it must be a hard life (No pun intended) for the angels.

It would be even harder if they had 'sexes' (in the way you mean) as they are not allowed marriage...

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Their are Female Demons who are around in Hell, and unlike the Angels the Demons can mate and have offspring.


You got text for that?

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A Twisted Parody and Mockery of the true soldiers of God
Why we should read more about them?,because we must know our enemy


It is more important to know our own armour.


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It is more important to know our own armour.

That´s of more importance,of course

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Quote:
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A Twisted Parody and Mockery of the true soldiers of God
Why we should read more about them?,because we must know our enemy


The Royalist


This topic is not about God but about the Nobility of Hell. I know that Satan (Emperor of Hell) and his henchmen the Arch Demons (Great Kings, Kings, Great Princes, Princes, Great Marquises, Marquises, Great Dukes, Dukes, Great Earls, Earls, Great Presidents, Presidents, Knights and Great Marshals of Hell) are our enemies, but I do find this stuff fascinating. Come to think about this, these people are the first Nobles in history.

No, they weren't the King of Kings was in the Beginning (before even the 'let there be light).
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I do wonder if Satan and his Chief Henchmen (Arch Demons) live in Palaces in Hell.

Arch Demons? In Palaces in Hell?
They'll be in Chains reserved unto judgement (if they are among those cast there, apparently for the 'men of renown' incident), otherwise they're still about on the earth....
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I also wonder if they like the Nobility of our world are related threw marriage.

As they are 'fallen angels' and angles are always male, they'd have some troubles with descendants....
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I also wonder how many Demons and evil spirits make up a Legion in the Army of Hell.

8,438
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Whether we like it or not these Arch Demons were the first Nobility!

No, No, No.
The King of Kings predates the creation.

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A Twisted Parody and Mockery of the true soldiers of God
Why we should read more about them?,because we must know our enemy


It is more important to know our own armour.

Excellent point. Though it is always helpful to know in what ways the Enemy of Humanity will attack, so we can strengthen ourselves with spiritual armour, sacramentals and holy water.

Though we always must be on our guard in case we begin to desire to learn too much about how the Devil operates and moves throughout the world.
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It is more important to know our own armour.

That´s of more importance,of course


And you're right we shouldn't be ignorant of the enemy, but the 'Manual of Arms' has all the information we need about the enemy.

We know he roams about seeking whom he my devour.
We know he entices us to follow our own lusts.
We know he is a Liar, and a Thief, and Murderer.
We know he is a constant accuser of the brethren.

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I saw the 'list of the orders of the Angels', to which I say
'OK Fine, so what?' they're not identified as such in the text, but feel free.....



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Interesting thread, RC. I think that monarchy is the most efficient and often the best form of government, but also, as Aristotle pointed out, capable of corruption. For some reason it seems that evil monarchies are less prone to being corrupted by democratic influences than are good monarchies (perhaps because they are already completely corrupted). I note that the Catholic Church, for instance, once so clearly hierarchical and orderly, has taken on many democratic reforms, whereas the free masons have maintained quite intact their rituals, secrecy and hierarchy.  I think as long as the evil angels exist, and a wise man said Satan's greatest secret is to make people think he does not exist, that they will be organized in a monarchical fashion.

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I've killed hundreds, if not thousands, of demons. It's really fun, especially if you use cheat codes, though I could probably do well without them, having essentially infinite lives (maybe it should be respawnings...meh). Cyberdemons are f-in' hard to kill, though. Make sure you've got a BFG if you meet one of 'em. It'll really come in handy.


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